Guten Morgen. My name is Christian. Twenty-two years of age.I like nerdy things. Fantasy novels, RPG's, Star Wars, and the like.
I'm an introverted pessimist. I'm deliberate, not random.
As the title suggests, I drink coffee. Lots of it.
“I can’t be the only one who made this connection.”
How Sauron created the ring. It was basically an extension of himself, his soul. He like cut his hand so that the evil could bind with the gold.
Well this is totally like a horcrux. The creation of a horcrux involves splitting the soul and putting it into a solid thing (such as a ring) and there is blood to be shed in the creation of both. RIGHT? You’re seeing this now aren’t you?
I think I know where Ms. Rowling got her idea now.. Sort of. It’s a bit different but still what is air.
I’ve written against this idea at length before, and won’t so do here again, but I still need to say something. Sauron, being of the Maiar, doesn’t “have” a soul. He’s nothing but soul. The Maiar clothed themselves in the material of the world so they could interact with Men and Elves, but they could be rid of it just as easily with no ill effects. He certainly didn’t split any of himself. He invested his power, which is an important delineation to make. It was his strength, not his self, that passed into the One Ring.
Next, the whole point of a horcrux has nothing at all to do with Sauron’s Ring of Power. A horcrux is made to both prevent others from killing you, and to extend your life unnaturally. Sauron, as an immortal being of a divine order, had no reason at all to create something to extend his already limitless life. Next, he did not create the Ring to prevent others from slaying him. Indeed, were you to slay Sauron’s mortal form he would simply recover and make a new one shortly thereafter. He didn’t need an object to prevent that from happening. In fact, the One Ring created a vital weakness that would actually make slaying him an actual problem.
Here’s how it works. Even if Sauron doesn’t have the Ring on, he’s no weaker than he ever was. But while he wears it his strength is magnified and multiplied. The only way he’d be weakened is if the Ring were *taken* from him by *force*, and claimed by another, thus taking all the power invested in the Ring away from Sauron. When Elendil and Gil’galad defeated Sauron he still would’ve come back. It was Isildur cutting the Ring from his hand afterward and claiming it for his own that screwed over Sauron, and weakened him to the point that he couldn’t take physical form until much later in the Third Age.
And, of course, when the Ring was destroyed most of Sauron’s strength went with it, and he was left as nothing more than a spirit of malice. As an immortal he could never truly be destroyed, but it left him in such a state that he could never harm or influence the world around him ever again. This weakness would not have existed if he hadn’t created the Ring. The Ring, as you can see, offers no protection from death (or whatever approximation you could apply to a Maia); it only creates weaknesses. Quite the opposite of a horcrux, I’d say.
Lastly, he definitely didn’t cut his hand to bind any evil to the gold. He was of the people of Aulë, and basically the most powerful craftsman in Middle-Earth; he poured his power into the Ring by virtue of his wisdom and craftsmanship, not some bizarre little blood ritual. No bloodshed necessary.
In any case, neither J.K. Rowling, nor J.R.R. Tolkien came up with this idea on their own. The concept of hiding one’s soul to avoid death has existed in folklore long before either author started writing. For instance, the story of Koschei the Deathless, who hid his soul in a needle, which was hidden in an egg, in a duck, in a hare, in a chest, buried under an oak tree, on an island in the ocean.
Now proficient enough in the Tengwar to read the One Ring inscription.
When it isn’t in cursive… Cursive is hard.
- While the Ring survives, so does Sauron. His soul is embedded in it. The same is true with a Horcrux. Part of the wizard’s soul is attached to the object so that they cannot die while the object survives. Isildur had the chance to destroy the One Ring, but did not, and Sauron lived, although bodiless, because of it.
- Bearers of the Ring became angsty, moody, and irritable.Especially seen in Ron’s case, while any one of them is wearing it, they become angsty and irritable as well.
- Normal weaponry has no effect on the one ring. Gimli tries to smash it with his ax and so on and so forth, but it cannot be done. Only something with ultimate power, say, the fires from whence it came, can destroy it. Just as normal spells have no effect on a Horcrux.
- Destroying the Ring is emotionally difficult for Frodo or any Ring-bearer. They become obsessed with it and refuse to destroy it because the Ring has a mind of its own and does not want to be destroyed. It takes over the bearer’s better judgement to stay alive. Ginny had a hard time getting rid of Riddle’s Diary because it possessed her. She tried throwing it away once, but was drawn back to it, just as Gollum was drawn back to the Ring. Then Ron faces difficulty destroying Slytherin’s locket because it shows him his greatest fears, just as putting on the Ring shows one terrifying thoughts.
In conclusion, Sauron was a Dark Wizard trying to make Horcruxes.
Why this is bullshit, by Christian Jahn.
- Sauron’s soul is not in the Ruling Ring. His power is. His ability to manipulate, to take physical shape; that’s what is in his Ring. In actuality, the Maia are pure soul-stuff. Like an angel, they’re not truly of flesh, or of the (Middle) Earth. They just whip something together to hold the energy that is their being. Even without the Ring existing, slaying Sauron was impossible. Breaking his physical body would, at worst, only incapacitate him for as long as it took him to repair it. Plus, destroying the Ring doesn’t actually destroy Sauron. It just mars him in such a way that his strength is utterly depleted. He still exists, albeit as a shadow of malice.
- Frodo didn’t become angsty, nor irritable. What he became was covetous. Defensive of having the Ring taken from him. Though it wasn’t pointed out by the author, they immaterial weight of the thing that wears out the bearer is a striking similarity.
- The fact that Sauron poured his power into his Ring isn’t what makes it impossible to destroy (whereas a Horcrux is difficult to destroy simply because you have to commit murder to make it). Nay, what makes the Ring so indestructable is the level of craftsmanship that went into its creation. Sauron was a Maia of Aulë, a servant of the Father of Dwarves. Aulë was the great craftsman-Vala, and Sauron’s amazing crafting abilities were learned from him. The only reason nobody can unmake Sauron’s Ring is because nobody in Middle-Earth was as powerful a craftsman as he was. If Aulë himself got a hold of the Ring, he’d be able to unmake it without the great fires of Orodruin.
- The Ring’s ability to ensnare the mind is different from that of a Horcrux, by far. Wearing the Ring doesn’t show terrifying things, unless terrifying things are truly upon you (Such as the Ulairi, the “Nazgûl” or Ring-Wraiths). And it certainly doesn’t use fear to keep you from chucking it. On the contrary, it shows you wild possibilities of how it’s powers might be used. When Sam bore it, for instance, he saw images in his head of becoming Samwise the Great, gathering an army about him, and spreading trees, flowers, grass, and all other such sunlight and happiness throughout the horrible Plains of Gorgoroth. Thankfully, being of stern stuff, he shook off this false delusions of grandeur and pressed on. Although, admittedly, Frodo and Gollum were unable to resist.
Lastly, the whole point of the Ruling Ring isn’t survival. Sauron was already immortal. He was already a demi-god of sorts (more of a fallen angel, really) and had no need of “insured immortality.” The Ring had only one purpose: to enhance his strength, and to either bring the Elves of Middle-Earth under his sway, or enable him to destroy them utterly. He was no pithy wizard making a pathetic grab toward eternal life. In fact, putting all his strength and will into the Ring is the only thing that made him anything approaching destroyable. If he hadn’t, the worst fate he could’ve ever endured was being chained up by the Valar like his old master Melkor, the Morgoth Bauglir.
My fuck, that is awesome.
(via runningdive)
Sauron, King of Men, Black Lord of Morder, the Necromancer, The Lord of the Rings, Ring-Maker, Lord of the Earth, and Lord of Gifts.
